ILLEGAL MEXICANS GO HOME: A LOVE LETTER

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By pcoach

Update

1/15/11: Since this hub was originally published, many things have occurred in Arizona and the United States regarding this bill and this topic. The "Dream Act" made it to the 112th Congress and was shot down, and not just by Republicans. The Healthcare bill is on its way to repeal or at the very least, serious changes. Many states are enacting legislation that will deal with the devastation of illegal immigration. At least one Federal court has ruled that the Healthcare bill is unconstitutional. If you have nothing constructive to say, don't leave a comment, please. I have only said in this hub what millions of LEGAL Americans feel. America is going to hell in a handbasket financially and we simply can't do this anymore and remain a free nation. We are in debt to China up to our ying-yangs and it is not funny. We must take a stand and let our government know that we take our credit, the nation's credit, as seen by the world, very seriously. Thank you.

They Broke the Law to Get Here-Now Get the Hell Out!

I simply don't get it. Illegals come into our country by breaking our laws in order to get here in the first place, and then continue to break the law in much more hidious ways, i.e., human trafficking, drug trafficking, kidnapping for ransom or worse. Twenty-five percent of California jails are filled with illegals who have committed crimes of magnitude, i.e., assault and battery, rape, murder, kidnapping. Fifteen percent of California's public school students, K-12, are illegal. Okay, so opposers to Arizona's 1070 bill don't understand why we don't like illegals in our states? That's not bad enough for you?

Maybe the illegals and persons supporting their "plight" don't understand why this is a problem for Arizonans, or Americans for that matter, because Arizona is not alone. The crime issue should be obvious. How else do all those crimes affect Arizonans? Because it costs money to house all those illegals, and once they are out of jail, they will either return to Mexico, or remain in Arizona as an illegal, and never pay back the state for its costs to hold them while they fulfilled their prison terms. Now, if it were my caucasion legal citizen butt behind bars in Arizona, once I fulfilled my prison term, I would have to pay the state back for what it cost to keep me there. But if your illegal, you just disappear into the woodwork, leaving the bill to be paid by GUESS WHO? Me and You, John and Jane Doe American Citizen, payor of taxes.

As for the public school problem, yes, problem, one reason Arizonans/Americans are upset is because it costs money to have more children in a classroom. Every time a class exceeds its quota of children per teacher, a new teacher must be hired, or the children must find another school that is not already overfilled by illegals. That is completely wrong when legal Arizonans/Americans are the ones footing the bill. The schools monies are all tapped out. The give-a-ways are coming to an end, finally, because illegals have broken our financial stability.

Wouldn't it be great if we could afford to take care of all the world's ills, but we can't.

And then this morning I read that another Arizona police officer has been shot and killed in Phoenix. And a woman, whose purse was on her arm, was dragged by yes, another illegal alien in a vehicle trying to rip off her purse. Almost ripped off her arm. The earlier part of this hub was written before this morning's news. My attitude has changed in that short period of time.

NOW ALL BETS ARE OFF! What follows is my Love Letter to Illegal Mexicans, and I say specifically illegal Mexicans because it is the massive influx of illegal immigrants from Mexico who are causing these problems so you can own it. The burden is properly placed on your backs.

Dear ILLEGAL MEXICANS: Get the heck out of my country on your own steam before the rest of us LEGAL AMERICANS assist you in that endeavor. When you get legal, we will welcome you like a lost brother. But until you are legal, get the heck out of my country. Do not move into my neighborhood. We are good, law-abiding, legal people here and we have no use for additional drains on our welfare system. Your presence in our country is a slap in our face and I am ready to start slapping back. You think it's a joke to come into MY COUNTRY and protest about your rights at a capitol in a state of America WHERE YOU HAVE NO RIGHTS? GET IT? You have no rights in this country as long as you are illegal. I am exactly what you have created so deal with it or get out of my country.

Ya know, until this morning's news, I had a heart for illegal Mexicans. NOT ANYMORE. Now, I am just angry. How dare you come into this great country and complain about our laws on immigration when in fact, your own country's immigration laws are far worse. To immigrate TO Mexico (who in their right mind, right?), you actually have to have a skill or something to contribute to the country. Something that you can do. Well, no wonder you are all coming here.

And for those of you LEGAL AMERICANS who have a problem with how I feel about illegals, then you simply have no blinkin' sense and your opinion is worthless in my opinion. In fact, I would suggest that you invite a few homeless illegals into your home and take some of the burden off the hard-working, tax-paying, legal people trying to provide a decent place for their families. Bring them into your homes. You feed them, house them, pay for their medical needs, entertain them, whatever it is that makes your heart go pit-a-pat.

And finally, I have a black and white 26-year-old daughter and a 6 1/2-year-old granddaughter living in Phoenix. I voice their ethnicity for the sole purpose of showing that I don't have a problem with anybody's skin color, creed, what the heck ever. I only moved away from Phoenix two years ago so I have experienced the hell hole that it has become. Let not a hair on the tops of their beautiful heads be harmed or some illegal alien will discover the meaning of American. That, people, is a promise.

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Larry 23 months ago

It's to late to get them all out,it will be easier to clean up the gulf than to get all and I mean every last ancor baby out of here! I can't even go to the store and there every where. I wish they would just get the freck out !

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tom hellert Level 7 Commenter 23 months ago

Ghost 32 another hubber one of my fans lives in AZ-helives near the border and has alot to say about the dirty rotten invaders.. i have said Build a 30 ft fence 10 below 20 ft high above grade- every 150 feet tall towers with high powered rifles with scopes and the authority to use them freely lets spend money on ammo not signs telling them to stay back-- talk about a jobs bill. Tmake sure you bild the fences 30 ft off the border- so when the pass the signs indicating you will be shot beyond this point-in englih AND SPANISH- heck we can put a loudspeaker up in english and spanish- get out or be shot- if they dont get out ... they get shot Men women- children in that order- What happens if americans fumble their way into mexico/china they get-imprisoned so lets forget about a fake trial- a judge or jury- you are not americans you don't get a trial anddon't come here illegally for an anchor baby-because we can send that baby home with you without papers of their birth-- No more all americans or none- ya gotta be legal americans to have americans "Live Free or Die"

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mexican 22 months ago

jajaja these stupid *((& call themselves legal americans and cant even spell!! What a dumass jajaja and dnt worry i know of many woman who cross the border'illegaly' just 2 have an american baby,includin my family and guess what they proudly get there american birth certifacate jajaja so keep hatin ann wishin bitches we takin over usa and yall cant do shit bout it. Statistics show that in less than 10 yrs the minority is gna b white jaja too bad usa is gna b mexico then there wnt b no space 4 the white anymore so back 2 europe or elsewhere yall realy 4rm 'f*(&*(n white trash illegals'face it we here 2 stay an not leave and expand more bitches. (Editted to remove curse words only. All the rest is the fine work of commentor, "mexican".

pcoach 22 months ago

The above comment by mexican was left on this article but in order to keep their comment, I had to extract the cuss words or remove it completely. I didn't want to remove the comment but it demonstrates my point exactly. What were the chances of that? Probably greater than I originally thought.

pcoach 22 months ago

Dear "mexican" who commented on 7/14/10. I had to remove your original comment because of the bad words. You are exactly the kind of person my article was meant to offend. Glad to see it's working. You are lucky to be in this country where you can actually use the internet, huh? Like I said, make yourself legal and we'll welcome you like a lost brother. But you, no chance of that. Your writing shows your lack of education and your delight in sucking off the teat of hard-working Americans. You are not who we want in this country. So you, and people like you, are ruining the passage to Arizona LEGALLY of wonderful, decent Mexicans. Decent Mexicans, like decent Americans, should be all over your welfare ridden, hand-out-seeking butt. Adios, Mexican. I will have to remove your comment because you don't know enough English so you used cuss words, which are not allowed. Oh, like you care. You're not allowed in this country but here you are. There is no end to the laws you won't break!

NoAmnesty 22 months ago

I agree, PCoach. We cannot afford to take care of the whole world any longer. I am an isolationist by nature and feel that there is nothing and I do mean nothing, including oil, in this world that we can't provide for ourselves. The US has been the most generous country in the world and all we hear is how "the US doesn't do enough". Well, it's time to circle the wagons and look out for our own.

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vivianslaunch 22 months ago

dude u are a loser.u act like we are the only ones that commit crimes.theres alot of white guys doing the same thing.i hate people like you.u talk shit about other poeple and u think u white dicks are perfect.u guys do the same thing.so why talk about us.is just playing dumb

Taylor 22 months ago

really wow . I am a legal person here im half hispanic / spainard i happen to be 12 years old and really what the hell! yeah sure part of mexicans make the other mexicans that come here to have a good future and have a better job look bad but honestly if your gonna say GET OUT OF MY COUNTRY , mexicans might as well have the right to say GET OUT OF OUR COUNTRY you white people . This is really stupid why cant all people be equal . Wow , if you actually went to church you wouldnt have such a rasicm mind , god would have NEVER wanted this , you guys are all Idiots because without the hispanic people you guys are gonna loose your buisnes and jobs .

pcoach 22 months ago

Vivianslaunch, doesn't matter. They are legal in this country. You are not. It has nothing to do with color. It has everything to do with legality and the disgusting drain on our economy. 500,000+ illegals in Arizona alone, 10,000,000+ sucking up medicaid, using our hospitals for free, filling up our schools. If you aren't legal, you aren't welcome. Simple as that. And the only reason illegals haven't been dragged away is because Obama wants your illegal vote. How special that must make you feel. I said it before, and I'll keep on saying it. Get legal and we will welcome you like a brother but this crap in Arizona is just that, CRAP! Go home.

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pcoach Hub Author 22 months ago

Taylor, before you go shooting off your mouth, you should read my other hubs. You have no clue as to my ethnicity, you foolish child. Illegals are not helping anything in this country. LEGAL people do. Are you getting it yet, little boy? My family is black and white. We don't care about color. We care about our country. For the millionth time, if your legal, I have no problem with you. If you are not, GO HOME and come back here the right way, like thousands of people do.

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TheManWithNoPants Level 7 Commenter 22 months ago

I'm an Arizona resident. Illegal immigration is killing my state. I just published a hub a few minutes ago on this. I struggle with a battle between my compassion for these beautiful people and the tough decsions that have to be made. As far as the guy that said the thing about us losing our jobs. Please come back on and explain that to me. I'm a business owner in Arizona and would love to cover that one. Good hub!

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vivianslaunch 22 months ago

u gotta be dumb to say that immigrants dont pump money into the economy.we love to spend money.and we aren't the only ones getting free medication.a lot of people are,so don't be ignorant.you say we cost you people a lot of money?dude just think about it...there's like millions of immigrants in this country.and all those immigrants get taxes and social security deductions of their check.where do you think all that unclaimed money goes to?huh?we never see it again.so where else would it go to?u know.just like your tax money,all that money that u say we are costing you in taxes,went to Iraq and to the government and bank CEO's giving them self's million dollar bonus.and about the oboma comment,we are the reason why aboma is where he is.because our vote.and because of your vote,he doesn't care about u either.u think he gives a damn?come on man be realistic and stop kissing ass.and that also profs that he needs us to keep this economy going.we all work together.with out immigrants,who will work construction?whose going to clean your offices?business?whose going work 12 hour shifts at factories.that produce things we all need in our every day life.whose going to pick your veges and fruits for our salads our juices.whose going to baby sit your kids?where are we going to eat tacos tortas?enchiladas?tostadas?where if not from a mexican restaurant?not from taco bell,because is not the same..is not.so please really think about it,before u go out there saying things.

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pcoach Hub Author 22 months ago

Vivianslaunch: You've come into my hub to tell me that I am dumb and ignorant? You really are an Idiot. Your entire entry refers to immigrants. I am speaking of ILLEGAL immigrants! White, black, yellow and brown people do each of the jobs you cited. These aren't MEXICAN jobs! We are not afraid of hard work. That is what built this great country. Idiots like Obama made you believe that white America is lazy. 12-hour shifts? Bring it on. Work in the fields? Like hell I wouldn't. Illegals ARE taking jobs from LEGAL Americans. What the hell do you know about CEOs bonuses except they have money and you don't. Take the same risks they do and then we can talk about that but that comment coming from you just makes you sound like the jealous person you are. And what MY government does with my money is MY business. You are illegal and you don't have rights, remember? So, you don't have an opinion. We can't hear you because you are illegal. Therein lies your problem. Well, you too could enjoy the American dream but not when you come into the U.S. (totalling 15,000,000 now) illegally. Now, my country's economy has gone to hell (illegals have cost America $300 BILLION), drug cartels have offered $1,000,000 to kill Sheriff Arpaio, and you're damn right, I blame illegals, and our Idiot President, and Progressives. Your ignorance seeps from every word of your comment. Go back home. The legal mexicans, hispanics in this country see the problem illegals are causing. The LEGAL immigrants in this country are against amnesty. You truly make me sick. I have a problem with ANYONE WHO IS ILLEGALLY IN THIS COUNTRY. I don't give a damn about the color of your skin. 15,000,000 illegal people sucking money out of legal Americans pockets. That's what I give a damn about. Please educate yourself because you sound like an utter fool. And if you don't want to be spoken to this way, don't come into my hub calling me dumb and ignorant. In fact, don't come back to my hubs at all. You are exactly the people I want to offend and you never let me down. I can count on people like you to be exactly as I described. And lastly, as far as mexican food (I can't even believe you brought that up), LEGAL mexicans and hispanics, latinos, whatever, provide the restaurants you spoke of. We don't need a damn thing from illegal people. Am I clear? Illegal people do not help this country, LEGAL immigrants do. If you can't pick up this simple concept, please don't come back.

NoAmnesty 22 months ago

"who will work construction?whose going to clean your offices?business?whose going work 12 hour shifts at factories.that produce things we all need in our every day life."

Who? Americans, that's who. Without illegal immigrants employers will be forced to pay living wages. There are plenty of Americans who would love to have a construction or factory job. Granted, penalties for the employers who hire illegal laborers need to be stiffened but this is OUR country not yours! I don't come to your country demanding my "rights". Please offer me the same courtesy. If I went to your country and overstayed my Visa my butt would be in jail. Why is yours still on the street?

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pcoach Hub Author 22 months ago

NoAmnesty, thank you for the comments. That is the one thing that infuriates me the most on this topic. If you are illegal, you simply do not have any rights. I was living in Phoenix when they had the million mexican march on the Capitol and I am still wondering how you can march on a Capitol fighting for civil rights that as an illegal, don't exist to them. I don't have the tolerance anymore to play nice with these arguments. Arpaio has a contract on his head, literally, and people like 'ol viv, there, say they are not all criminals. They are breaking the law by being here so yes, they are all criminals. Thank you again for taking the time to comment. I wonder if Americans were taking their money, if they would be singing the same tune.

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vivianslaunch 22 months ago

Pcouch sorry for calling you ignorant And an idiot.but that's just the way

You people act.all I'm saying is that everybody in this world is equal,no

Matter if u are black white or Mexican.we are all the same where ever we are

At.it just kills me that me,that all u people are doing this.this is not right man.

This world is soon coming to an end because all this shit that's happening

And u guys still have the time to be racist.or cause all this because of money.

There is no more time for this kind of stuff.please everybody just learn

To get along.and always have love for everybody no matter your color,

Race or your immigration status.god will soon come for us.god doesn't

Like us doing this to ourself.and remember money ain't a thing,so why

Do we argue about it.ones we die,money and everything in this earth

Will stay here.there's no way to take it with us.all im saying pcouch is

To think positive and have love foreverybody else.we all should come together

In this time.we are soon comic to end.and things are just going to get worst.

the least I want is people to stay Here on earth and suffer.we all should have love,harmony and peace In our heart.and again pcouch sorry for the insults no hard feelings towards you.

Even if u still have something against me.I have love for everybody and I will always be

Asking god to forgive u guys,because I still have faith in everbody.so please snap out of it.

And focus your thoughts into positive things.

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pcoach Hub Author 21 months ago

Vivianslaunch: This is the last time I will return your comment. First of all, you keep harping on racism. My family is black and white, and I will rip the black, brown, yellow or white off anyone who talks crap about my family and you Idiot-witch, that includes you. I looked you up on hubpages. You don't write, you just comment, so what the hell are you doing here? That being said, you keep coming back to "being racist". This issue has NOTHING TO DO WITH RACE. Do you get it? Absolutely, in God's eyes, we are all equal. OUR EQUALITY IS NOT THE ISSUE. YOU ARE NOT LEGAL, THAT IS THE ISSUE. Laws are not there to be broken as you obviously think. You needn't pray for me or ask God to forgive me because I have done nothing, ON THIS TOPIC, to be forgiven for. I am no angel, viv, but I sure ain't a racist. You want love, harmony and peace, go back to Mexico and build it there. Mexico needs all the love, peace and harmony you can give it but you ran out on it so don't come into this hub and preach to me. I will not run out on my country like you did, viv. I will fight to the death for my country. I served this country in the military once, I will do whatever is necessary, in or out of the military, to defend it again. If that means defending it from the likes of people who would rather try to crush us economically, then so be it. You want to preach? How about THE LORD HELPS THOSE WHO HELP THEMSELVES. Quit taking handouts from my government and help yourself. How about that? Don't come spewing religion in here. If you leave anymore comments, viv, I will simply delete them because I do not have the desire to continue to argue with a woman who does not read or comprehend. I care about my country, do you get that? I care what effect 13,000,000 to 15,000,000 illegal people in this nation is having on my country. I care that your illegal ass is going to topple this country and give our Idiot of a president the votes he needs to make this a communist country. You do not understand what Obama is doing because you are wallowing in your illegalism and your self-pity. Get out of this hub, you won't learn anything here, and start reading about George Soros, the man pulling Obama's strings. I don't know why you have made me your daily fare, and if the conversation were more intelligent, I would certainly enjoy it, but it is not. You keep saying the same stupid crap. Further comments from you will be deleted in my effort to stop your madness since you can't seem to stop it yourself, so please don't bother coming back. Viv, the bottom line, you are illegal. You do not have a voice in this country because you are illegal. You do not help this country, you are hurting it. GET LEGAL OR SHUT UP! It's tht simple.

aNi714 21 months ago

Reading all these comments and personal opinions...Wow!!!

pcoach , vivianslaunch , and everyone else are all wrong in some of your statements. Im Mexican-American(U.S. Born Citizen) and proud of it and to hear such ignorant statements about illegal immigrants and Americans is just idiotic. Put your self in each others place and think about the ups and downs of being American and illegal immigrants you cant just talk about something if you dont know both sides..think about that!!!!

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pcoach Hub Author 21 months ago

aNi714: Thank you for your comment. You see, I cannot try to put myself in an illegal's shoes because what they are doing is illegal. And moreover, what almost 15 million illegals are doing to my country, I cannot overlook that. It is sad that you would ask any legal American to do that. We have compassion but to the extent that illegals have collapsed our economy, we won't have a country to help ourselves in much less a country to help illegals sucking money out of our healthcare, welfare, medicaid and such, and then taking jobs that YES AMERICANS WOULD DO.

You claim to be a U.S. born citizen. Bravo to you doing it the right way. Or were you an anchor baby? That too, is part of the problem. If your parents were illegal coming here just to gain citizenship through you, same issue, part of the problem. However, if you are legal, regardless of the how, more power to you. I have no problem with anyone's skin color, and for people to continue to comment that this is a racist topic is just plain bull. That is rhetoric spewed by Progressives who NEED you to believe this is a racist topic so they can demonize conservatives, or republicans, or anyone else who stands in their way. Granted, there are people who are racist but you didn't find that person in this hub. In me, you have found someone who simply wants our government to protect our borders NOW, and that does not include granting amnesty to almost 15 million illegals that this country cannot sustain. But to listen to people who say that this is not hurting my country economically, well, those people are just plain idiots or liars, or both. In short order, there won't be the America that you were blessed to be born into. America under Obama, if we let him finish his agenda, will have Americans under the same communist rule as Russia, or China, or God knows, Obama's own distorted view of marxism. And no one wins then.

And finally, I do have LEGAL Mexican and Mexican-American friends who, unfortunately for your viewpoint, share my views. Legal Americans of all races and sizes see the damage to America that our porous border has caused. Mexican drug cartels are rendering some of the U.S. lands untravelable. Who the hell as ever heard of this crap in America? My kid and grandkid live in Phoenix. I lived there until a few years ago. It is a pit of hell in my humble opinion.

I will also further point out that if illegals, marching or protesting in Arizona cities, would protest peacefully and leave their Mexican flags at home, that would go a long way to easing those tensions but instead what we get is ILLEGALS burning the American flag and taunting Americans with the Mexican flag.

I have to tell you, as someone who has served in the military and put my life on the line for this great country, I am beyond offended that this is the kind of behavior from people who want to become part of this country. No, I don't think so. But I do thank you for your comment and your willingness to discuss it.

bcrim 21 months ago

We can thank progressives and Obama for turning immigration and the need to secure our borders into a racial topic. Divide and conquer is the plan. Appears to be working. Keep up the good work pcoach. Do not let the misguided opinions of progressive zealots who don't read enough to understand what this president is doing stand in your way. Keep talking! Stay strong. Great hub, very passionate.

Mrs. Nobody 21 months ago

Why is it that anyone against ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION is automatically a racist. It's ILLEGAL that what part of that are you not understanding? Americans are against illegal immigration regardless of race, nationality, or ethnicity. Nothing about this post came off as racist to me. If you read this and that's what you took away from it, then perhaps you should read it again, and again, and AGAIN until you actually grasp what is being said here.

The arguement I hear the most is that, "America was founded and built by immigrants from numerous countries." Yes it was, however these immigrants had a vision, work ethic, and values. Something "illegals" do not possess because if they did they would not be here ILLEGALLY. The issue of illegal immigration is not just a "Mexican" or "Hispanic" one, however a vast majority of our illegal immigrants are coming from our southern borders, thus when the topic of illegal immigration is mentioned YES, Mexicans are brought up the most. Not because "White America" is racist, but because illegal Mexicans are the largest contributing factor and are relevant to the discussion! What sense would it make to ignore these characteristics?

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pcoach Hub Author 21 months ago

bcrim: Thanks for the words of support. I plan to keep talking a lot!!!!

AN AMERICAN CITIZEN 20 months ago

You are so right on Pcoach!!! I get so sick of them always saying we do the jobs the "AMERICANS" will not do. Please I am not afraid to get my hands dirty. I have worked those jobs all my life. I have cleaned those toilets, babysat, worked picking fruit, worked in factories we have done it all. We were doing it long before any of them came here and we will be doing it long after the are gone. They are a drain on our country and they are sucking us dry. I to have no problem with the people who come here "LEGALLY". But I have a big problem with the "INVADERS". They thumb their nose at out country, our flag and our citizens. They think they don't have to obey our laws. This is a country of laws, if we brake a law, we would have to pay the price. What makes them any better than our "U.S. CITIZENS" You are doing a great job on your hub....I am behind you 100% ....keep up the good work...

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pcoach Hub Author 20 months ago

An American Citizen: We just have to keep fighting Washington until we get someone with a brain in there! Someone who doesn't have an agenda of marxism. Someone who understands that uncontrolled borders are extremely dangerous to our nation's security and especially now. And the numbers are collapsing our economy along with bailouts, etc. Someone who believes in our Constitution and the rights of states to protect their borders, even when the federal gov't don't, and won't. Thank you for the comment.

cathy c 19 months ago

i'm from southern california, which use to be a great place to live. now infested by non english speaking mexicans most neighborhoods have become dirty and are unsafe. they moved here for a better life??? then why are they turning my america into a barrio in which they tried to leave. most americans want them to go... we are not racist we a pro all things american.

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

Cathy C: Thanks for stopping in. I know what you're saying. I don't get it either. And it's a symptom of oh so much more.

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Jimmy Fuentes 19 months ago

I might be wrong on this (it has happened once before haha) but I truly believe that if we were to absolutely have a guarantee that the border was locked down; NOT the promise that it will be closed, but once it is closed and guaranteed that it is LOCKED AND SECURE, I believe that the majority of americans would consider to some form of legalization BUT that isn't even an option or worth discussing until the border is secure. Illegal immigration is a HUUUGE PROBLEM but the border concerns me even more from a national security perspective. How can anyone after 9/11 say they are serious about protecting America if they wont agree to something as basic as closing our borders.

I am not anti-immigration as the media likes to misrepresent many americans . I am anti-ILLEGAL immigration. Just my 2 cents .

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

Jimmy Fuentes: Thanks SO much for your input tonight!

mermaid22 19 months ago

Hey guys, I think America support a lot to illegals, read that article from student magazine."Shadow of undocumented entry looms"

http://www.theranger.org/shadow-of-undocumented-en

I almost cried reading this sentimental story about one illegal who crossed Mexican American border. I under...stand that hi escaped from very terrible life, that is ok. But the thing I do not understand is why he was not been deported?! Moreover, he got benefits, he got a job, he even was able to pay his college tuitions doing that job. Finally he got benefit from Texas HB 1403 and starts to pay as in state resident. Does it meant that illegas has more rights than international students in this country? look, guys, here is my story. I am international student, to maintain my legal status I have to be register full time, at least 12

hours, I have to pay out of state tution, I have no rights to have a job permit, I can be deported if somebody find me working somewhere (but do not worry, nobody accept me without SSN) :\ if I drop one class I will considered like "out of status" and can be deported.

Does he going go back to Mexico after he will get his degree?

In addition, my mother is citizen of USA, she has applyed for me for family immigration and I have to wait at least 7 years to get immigration visa. So, illegals has more rights than people who legally waiting years and years for their immigration visas.

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

Mermaid: It sounds to me like you are going about this the legal way. If I'm correct, then bravo to you and I wish you much success IN AMERICA and welcome to you when you become legal. And I sincerely mean that.

Now the guy in the story you told is the reason why Americans are angry. Most hard-working legal families don't qualify for these "handouts" and we live here legally and pay plenty of taxes. When our schools and hospitals and everyone's wallets are hurting, should anyone expect us to want to help people who are causing the hurt economy to begin with? Yes, his was a sad story, but now many other Americans are paying for that guy but no one asked us if we wanted to. We have rights in this country that our gov't is ignoring, for instance, border security. Had our gov't not been playing politics with our lives, the federal immigration laws would have been being enforced and our borders would be secure.

Thank you for stopping in. Maybe when you get your "new legal status" you could stop back in so I can congratulate you!

mermaid22 19 months ago

pcoach: Thank you for supporting to my opinion! I going to publish an answer article in the same magazine. My article will be about comparison of Illegas allien and international students rights.

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

mermaid: I hope you will put that link in here when you do it. Good luck.

17 year old immigrant 19 months ago

"pcoach" you sound so uneducated, it's actually pretty sad. for one, mexican's aren't the only illegal immigrants. america is a country built on immigrants. this land was basically stolen from native americans. DON'T FORGET THAT IF IT WASNT FOR YOUR ANCESTORS YOU WOULDNT BE HERE. do you know your history? do you know how your ancestors got here? maybe you're trashing you ancestors this instant..maybe they were once illegal. to whoever said "they're everywhere"... how about you go back to highschool. almost half of america was originially mexico's territory, but was bought from america, BASICALLY STOLEN from mexico for a very little amount of money. it's sad that i'm 17 years old, not to mention from mexico and im smarter than you. my family came to america LEGALLY because of all the crime that was back in my hometown. illegal or not, most illegal immigrants come to the US for freedom, and a better life. its so sad that all of tou selfish people dont realize the struggle, the pain, that it took for them to leave. how about you walk my families shoes.."PCOACH".

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

Thank you for admitting you are under 18. Please do not correspond any further in this hub or I will have to delete your comments and your time will be wasted.

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

Jane: While I see you are a Traveling Idiot, I could not keep your comments on the hub because you brought the wrong vocabulary book with you when you came in here and hubpages does not allow that "F" bomb you continually dropped so willy-nilly.

What I will tell you Jane, is first of all, you wasted your own time coming in here and writing such venom without having read the article or the comments and you would see how wrong you are. But reading does not seem to be your forte. It's a shame you had to use so many cuss words because as you can see, if you read, I leave many oppositional comments in this hub because I want everyone to see how stupid you are.

So please, if you intend to comment in here again, keep it clean or waste your time. Pick one!

I might point out to you, however, that you keep referring to Mexicans. I am talking about illegals. Please try to stick with the program.

kevin89 19 months ago

I read Jane's posts last night before you deleted them and while i do agree she may have let her arguments become too emotional, she did have valid points.

First, your article specifically attacked Mexican illegals several times, and whether you chose to address it or not, this is a racial topic. Laws such as the one in Arizona specifically attack those with a Latino backround, and while people such as yourself continue to deny it, it is quite obvious. I also agree with her in the sense that you should put yourself in these peoples shoes before judging and generalizing them as criminals. I read that you don't want to put yourself in their shoes because they are illegal, but i find the fact that you can't see past that to be ridiculous. I'm not specifically attacking you, but i do believe that many of the people who have a strong hate for undocumented immigrants, do have some growing up to do. You yourself address the fact that Mexico is not an ideal place to live in. All that most of these immigrants are trying to do is to move to a place that will enable them to have a better life. It is a long, grueling process to become a citizen or legal resident, one that not all immigrants have the time or means to go through. Lastly, pcoach, I also agree that you should weigh both sides of a topic before making an opinion, unless of course you are using politics as an excuse to be a racist. If hubpages give you a sense of power, great. I'm sure you will realize in no time that all your blind opinions will grant you is followers as idiotic as yourself.

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

Kevin: I have defended ad nauseum my position on arguments both in the hub and in my added comments throughout. Neither Jane nor you have said anything different than other commenters in here who are against the SB1070 bill. And I have given my responses. You know where I stand. I know where you stand. We can agree to disagree because I undoubtedly will not change your mind and you undoubtedly will not change mine.

I find myself all too willing to get into this name-calling back and forth but it is really just that. But I thank you for your comment.

BigRed 19 months ago

Roughly 61% of the illegal immigrants in the U.S. are Mexican. Do you care at all about the other 39% of the illegal immigrant population? Or is that too much of a minority for you to care?

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

BigRed: I don't get it? Are people not reading or what? It is the illegal part of it that is the problem and the economic drain on taxpaying US citizens.

This is not about minorities. This is not about race. Democrats are making this about race but it is NOT. They are making it about race to enflame you so you will vote Democrat. That's it. No mystery. No pretty pictures. Dems want your vote and illegals votes and playing the race card is working just fine. Look at yourself for the answer to that.

The problem is taxpaying Americans cannot afford this massive influx. These illegals are nothing like the men and women who migrated here in the 1900s. When they came here, they knew they would get nothing for free but they worked hard and became tax paying Americans, like the rest of us. But that is not what illegal Mexicans are doing today. Not even remotely.

If you had read this hub, you would know from my last paragraph, I don't give a damn about color.

In the interest of educating you, I will suggest that you read this hub to inform yourself. http://hubpages.com/hub/Immigration-Illegal-Aliens This hub is written by James A. Watkins and it is an excellent history of immigration in the U.S. Please read it, learn from it.

And for your personal benefit, please stop it with the minority and race crap. It demeans you and makes you sound like a democrat. The entire world knows what a laughing stock American democrats are.

mermaid22 19 months ago

http://www.theranger.org/news/international-studen

here is my opinion in that same magazine, you are welcome to read

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

Thank you so much for leaving me the link to your article. I read it and Bravo! Could you email me your email address (it won't be seen on hubpages, only to me)? Speak to your mother, most certainly first. But I would like to get some info to see if I can't help you in a different way. You can email me directly using the "Contact pcoach" link at the top and to the right, just below my "avatar" or "picture". Or have your mom email me but please identify "mermaid22" so I know who you are. If there is something we can do to help, I would like to try.

mermaid22 19 months ago

Thank you for support! I wrote you alredy!

june46 19 months ago

wow creep. ^^^ are you using hubpages to exploit people? pathetic.

Fickle Citizens 19 months ago

As soon as the economy recovers you will want them back to do all the lousy jobs for low wages.

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

June: Sounds like your an Idiot. Why would you even use the word "exploit" in this hub. Were you sticking your nose where it doesn't belong? You don't like mermaid's story because why, are you illegal? That's the only reason you would have anything to say as far as exploitation. OR DO YOU EVEN KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD? Damn right there JUNE. I will help anyone who is trying to come to this country LEGALLY, you waste of oxygen. That would be mermaid doing it the LEGAL way. Something illegal Mexicans don't get and neither do you. Stay out of my hub and don't waste my time.

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

Fickle Citizen: No we won't, you Fickle Idiot! And again, there you are, showing that you, too, are unable to read. If you have read anything in here, you would know that AMERICANS WILL DO THE JOBS. Just because you say Americans won't do those jobs, doesn't mean they won't or DON'T. IN FACT THEY DO AND THEY ARE! I have news for you. We do not need Illegals, get it, we do not need you to do jobs in our country. YOU NEED US!

Don't come into this hub thinking you are talking to an Idiot like yourself. We do not need illegals. ILLEGALS NEED US. When you come into this country doing jobs for less money than Americans would, you are hurting this country, not helping. You have lowered the wages in this country. That not only does not help you, you Idiot, it doesn't help Americans.

Stay out of here until you grow a brain. I am sick of defending my position WITH IDIOTS!

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pcoach Hub Author 19 months ago

And June, you are the real Idiot. You have assumed you are talking to a man!

But you are right. I AM exploiting people. I am exploiting IDIOTS and look how easy it has been!

Appalling... 18 months ago

'Stay out of here until you grow a brain. I am sick of defending my position WITH IDIOTS!'

One way of keeping out migrants of all kinds is to increase the number of genuinely appalling Americans. You are part of a mighty movement for ethnic purity,pcoach.

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pcoach Hub Author 18 months ago

Ethnic purity? Are you nuts? You haven't read a thing, have you? Don't come back. If you cannot read, don't bother commenting. I don't waste my time on Idiots like yourself. If you believe for one minute this is about race, you haven't read the hub or the comments and your stupidity is showing. I would thank you for commenting but it would be a lie.

Aly 18 months ago

So sad. I must say, sometimes you have to say no. But I think we should give green cards to the hard working illegal Mexican. 'Pcoach' are you racist about illegal mexicans? If you are, I hate you. Suck my sagging ass! If your not, I don't completely agree with you but on some yes. I think you should be a lawyer, you are so good, sorry, I mean, great at pointing out your point. Anyway, keep on going!

Aly 18 months ago

Damn it! I forgot, you're not talking about race. Sorry and next time don't write with so much hate, dislike.

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pcoach Hub Author 18 months ago

Aly: I won't address this topic again. 70% of Americans are against ILLEGAL immigration. We have LEGAL immigration. I realize it takes up to 7 years but it is the legal way.

Truth be told, I wish the United States could help Mexico, and we could if Mexico's president would simply admit that he needs America's help, and we could certainly use our troops to clean up Mexico's murdering drug cartels so that it would be SAFE for Mexicans to live in their own country and work their own land and live free, as we do.

BUT we cannot afford the massive influx of millions of illegals who have helped, I say helped, not caused, the collapse of our economy. And it is worse to know this is happening when we have a gov't whose single desire for illegals is to grant them citizenship for their vote. THAT IS CORRUPTION AND AMERICA has seen enough corruption under Obama.

Everyone wants to come to America. Well, you won't want to come here shortly when our freedoms have been stripped from us. That means YOUR freedoms will be stripped from you too.

I won't have it. I hate no race. My children are black and white and they sure don't use any race card while the rest of the time they are called high yellow. Everybody thinks they've got a monopoly on racism. Throw the word out. Racism. Throw it out. Get it out of your vocabulary.

I wish we could feed all the world's poor. And Mexico is our neighbor. Do you think we don't want to help our neighbor? But how about that neighbor? That neighbor is sending its worst to our borders and ACROSS the borders to bring the hell you know in Mexico to our United States. I'm sorry. That is not acceptable. And instead of running from your country, why are Mexicans not fighting against their gov't? Why are entire cities of police handing in their badges?

STOP MAKING THIS ABOUT RACE. Thank you Aly for your comments. There is a difference between hate and passion. I am passionate about the safety and the continued well-being of my fellow LEGAL American citizens, OF ALL LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS, i.e., black, brown, yellow, red, white.

I would suggest (I have placed this link in these comments earlier but it appears haters never read) that you read this hub written by James A. Watkins. He explains far more nicely and far more professionally than I how ILLEGAL immigration from Mexico is SERIOUSLY harming America. It is incredible information. Please read it and learn something.

G  16 months ago

I'm from South america "P_ _ _" I'm resident of united states and I really don't have much power to decide about North america I'm here to finish college and University but I think as an outsider that Mexican are a problem in the US and I total agree with take them out the US should do something about them , I will give u my point of view since I know spanish and I know what they are talk about ... they are to stupid to keep they country so they want come to to the US and do what they want with they rules Like get drunk and drive, put loud music ( music about narcotics yes thats what they music said) I really sad that hear americans said that south america is like mexico which is not true!!! P.S : sorry about my spelling what I said I still in college (learning english )

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pcoach Hub Author 16 months ago

G: Thank you very much for your comment. I don't get many decent comments on this hub as I am sure you can see why so I truly thank you for actually reading and understanding it. Good luck to you with your college endeavors in the US. It sounds like you are doing it the right way which is sometimes, unfortunately, the long way and the hard way so bravo to you and I hope you do well. My country's responsibility is to its citizens first, and then, if we have the ability to help others, we can. But right now, the problems in the US far exceed our ability to help our border friends. We are unable to help ourselves and our border should be closed, the illegals deported, and then we can again, start looking at when and how we can start allowing immigration from Mexico again. It is ridiculous that illegals will come across our border breaking laws right and left and then expect us to welcome them with open arms? Why would they expect respect from us when they have given no respect to the citizens of the US who are paying the price for their law-breaking:

Thank you, again, G, and I wish you the very best in our country and I hope we give you the proper respect you deserve as a citizen.

16 months ago

thank you for the fast response pcoach , I know how you feel .Some people said that Illegal Mexicans have the right to have a green card because they are Hard workers ... well here's what I think about that

anyone in the US work hard. the Phrase

"Hard worker Mexican's" just mean that the do more manual labor , now why they only do manual labor? because

first they have no desire to learn English

Second they come to the US with no education or basic knowledge about anything

third even here they still don't want to learn anything I'm almost sure that even illegals aliens can go to college but of course they think that "it will be a loss of time "

so now the question is : they are hard workers because they decide not to study and people have to celebrate that? any kind of job is a hard work, a teacher that works from 7 am to 3 or 4 pm do less work than a Mexican doing

manual labor just because the teacher use books ? I say no

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pcoach Hub Author 15 months ago

G: Your point is well-taken. Thanks for stopping in.

judy  15 months ago

As a woman I may add all they do is make babies, they cannot pay for, pushing onto the legal tax payers in the U.S. to pay for. What a man huh?

My Dr.s office closed its doors because their kind was not paying their bills!!! What right do they have?

What is going to happen when the legal people here supporting them are all gone, since they come to leach, what are they going to do then? Are they going to count on each other? Has any of them went to school to become a Dr.? Nurse? maybe a few.

They work for minimum wage, pay very little taxes if any at all...but make up for it by leaching from the working tax payer for food stamps, free money, free medical how can anyone say they pay their fare share???

Bill 15 months ago

Why do they keep having babies they cannot pay for? Why hasn't our worhtless government put a stop to them coming here.

The government here has NO rights taking MY damned money to pay for something so worthless. It is our money we worked for it, but the government just keeps handing it out,is it because the government's azz is taken care of by us too, so piss on us?

I did not use to be prejudice, I am now that way...when I see any Mexican, I will not treat them with any respect at all.....

Since this country is so broke, why doesn't the farmers that hires these people get HUGE fines? Jail time? I break the law I go to jail...what's the difference?

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pcoach Hub Author 15 months ago

Judy: I understand your frustration. I will never understand that argument that illegals make us more money than we spend on them. Takes a liberal to think of something as incredibily stupid as that. Until we deal with the illegal immigration problem, we will see no end to this madness. What scares me the most is Obama giving these some 15 million illegals an overnight legal pass thereby gaining their democrat vote. That scares me more than anything and that is enough to keep me fighting this issue every day. Thanks for stopping by.

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pcoach Hub Author 15 months ago

Bill: They keep having babies because the more they have, the more we pay them. I think we can blame democrats all the way around for this influx of illegals over the last many years, as well as the fall of our economy. There is nothing wrong with legal immigration but this illegal behavior is way more than we can handle effectively. Bill, I will say that while I understand that the situation may upset you to the point that you don't like Mexicans, the truth is we have a good many legal Mexicans here who are great, law-abiding citizens such as ourselves. I have LEGAL Mexicans as neighbors I wouldn't swap for white people in a minute, truly. I also have grown white neighbors who are too incredibly stupid to vote. Please don't hate every Mexican you see. Just realize this for the problem it is but don't hate. If you really need to hate something, then every time you look at them, let your feelings be re-directed toward the man who deserves them. Obama! Thank you for commenting.

francisid 12 months ago

why don't we all just try to go home to where we come from..with that,i doubt there would be no more talk about who's illegal or not,who has the rights, who hasn't..let's all see if life will really be much beautiful.

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pcoach Hub Author 12 months ago

Francisid: Thanks for stopping by. Part of what makes America great is the abundance of race and culture that we get to experience in our own country. The problem is that first of all, assimilation is required by all persons becoming citizens of America and this is not happening and hasn't been for the last 50 years. Secondly, the problem with illegals and IT IS A PROBLEM WE CANNOT AFFORD. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE SCHEDULES FOR ALLOWING CITIZENSHIP IN OUR COUNTRY. So we don't collapse it by allowing persons to come here and immediately obtain welfare and medical assistance.

The "talk about who's(sic) illegal or not, who has the rights, who hasn't", is, in fact, A HUGE ISSUE. And I will proudly point out that those who are illegal DO NOT HAVE RIGHTS BECAUSE YOU ARE NOT A U.S. CITIZEN. If you want rights, discuss that with the country where you do have citizenship.

"Illegals in America" is still as hot a topic as it has ever been for the last two years because it remains a problem. And until illegals return to their countries and start the Visa process in the legal manner, it will continue to be a problem and Americans will continue to gripe. And that means all Americans, regardless of race or color or creed, who became citizens the correct way and expect illegals to do it the right way, as they did.

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Josak Level 6 Commenter 4 months ago

I do look after illegals in my town they need help but all of the ones i know (and to be fair I dont spend my time with criminals) work much harder than I do for much less if you cannot find it in your heart to have compassion for people who are disadvantaged simply by the misfortune of being born in a poorer country then you are not a moral human being and a terrible American, what you are perpetuating is simple greed and intolerance terms found nowhere in the creeds of this nation.

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pcoach Hub Author 4 months ago

Josak: Interestingly enough, Josak, my illegal neighbors brought me gifts when we returned home from Christmas vacation. Why did they do such a crazy thing? Well, because we help ALL of our neighbors, regardless of their legality. They brought us tokens of their thanks for all that we do for them. My position is against ILLEGAL immigration. That is not to say that illegals should be treated as second class human beings but RATHER that they need to come into our country the legal way. If you liberals cannot read, please do not pretend to know how to write when you come into my hubs.

And Josak, you are welcome to not return here. Unless you are apologizing, you will be deleted.

christina escalante 7 weeks ago

I CAN NOT BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES CAN BE SO COLD BLOODED THIS POST MAKES ME ALMOST ASHAMED TO CALL MYSELF AMERICAN BEING THAT I AM MEXICAN AMERICAN BORN AND RAISED RIGHT ALONG THE BORDER. UNLIKE THE PERSON WHO PROBABLY WROTE THIS BLOG MY UPBRINGING DIDNT CONSIST OF A MAID NAMED MARIA AND A GARDNER NAMED PEDRO WHO PROBABLY IF IT WASNT FOR THESE ILLEGAL WORKERS WOULD HAVE ENDED UP LIKE LINDSY LOHAN IT DOESNT SURPRISE ME IF THE PEOPLE THAT MADE THESE RUDE COMMENTS ARENT ALREADY IN REHAB I AM PROUD OF MY MEXICAN CULTURE ITS SEEMS LIKE THE MARTIN LUTHER KING DAYS ALL OVER AGAIN RACISM IS WHAT IT ALL BOILS DOWN TOO ABOUT THE CRIMINALS HONEY DONT BE SURPRISED IF YOUR PRETTY LIL BLONDE DAUGHTER GETS KNOCKED UP BY THE AMIGO THAT LIVES WITH HIS PRIMOS IN A STUDIO ACROSS THE STREET FROM YOU ITS TOTALLY CLEAR THAT IF THESE GUNG HOE AMERICANS HAVE ENOUGHT TIME ON THERE HANDS TO EXPRESS SO MUCH HATE TOWARDS ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS WHO PROBABLY JUST MOWED THEIR LAWNS MAYBE THAT ATTENTION SHOULD BE DIRECTED TOWARD THOSE REBELLIOUS TEENS WONDER WHY THEY REBEL MAYBE BECAUSE THEY ARE TIRED OF BEING IGNORED BY AMERICAN PARENTS WHO SEEM TO CARE ABOUT MATTERS THAT ARE BEYOND THERE CONTROL

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pcoach Hub Author 7 weeks ago

Christina Escalante: Well, clearly you cannot read. My family is black and white and I sure as hell have no blonde children, not that it would matter. I am sorry that you feel so hateful about Americans who simply want all persons entering America to enter it the legal way.

Perhaps you cannot read. I was born to democrat parents. We mowed our own yards, grew and harvested our own gardens. Who the hell are you to come in here and make up what you think my background is. I have "color" in my background, as do you, apparently. The difference between us is that I use my brain. I do not subject myself to collective thinking. You should try to use your brain sometime. Clearly you did not when writing your comment.

Additionally, perhaps you are too stupid to know this but using ALL CAPS means you are yelling. Do not ever come into my hubs again yelling or you will be deleted and therefore will have wasted your time which, while your time is of no value to me, my time is of value and I will not waste it on you ridiculous liberals who cannot think for yourselves.

And lastly, my Mexican neighbors love my family. We give them food, equipment, clothes, whatever they need that they cannot afford when we can afford to help. How dare you come in here and yell at me when I am, in fact, a friend to ALL colors.

And honey, this is no MLK, Jr. time. Not even close. MLK, Jr., and his family members that are still alive, are embarrassed by where this Idiot of a president is taking this country. So get this, you little witch, take a hike and don't come back to my hubs or you will be deleted and will have wasted your useless time in writing your babble. And this is not pcoach responding to you, it is his wife, pepper. And I despise liberals. Despise them. Apparently that includes you. Stay out or be prepared to waste your time.

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